Pinin Posted January 14, 2012 Report Share Posted January 14, 2012 http://xoomer.virgilio.it/ramius/Militaria...o-cisterna.html Tripoli - ex mercantile "Sturla" - Dislocamento: 2.698 tonnellate - Velocità: 8,5 nodi - Equipaggio: ? - Armamento: ? - Storia: costruita nel 1923; acquistata nel 1928; affondata nel 1943 probabilmente da mina http://oceania.pbworks.com/w/page/8465160/...xiliary%20ships Sturla 1929:Tripoli ammunition transport 1922 1928 1943 Sturla class Cerco una foto. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
de domenico Posted January 15, 2012 Report Share Posted January 15, 2012 (edited) There were five near-sister cargo vessels built by Nicolò Odero fu Alessandro at his shipyards for himself as shipowner in 1921-25: LIDO, Odero La Foce, yard no. 235, 1144 tsl, 63.5 m, delivered 6.1921, in 1925 to Ilva Alti Forni e Acciaierie d'Italia as ORIONE, scuttled Civitavecchia 15.1.1944 while in German hands: I'll post a sketch by Schmelzkopf tomorrow. STURLA, Odero La Foce, yard no. 236, 1166 tsl, 63.2 m, launched 26.1.1922 and delivered 1.1922 to Giuseppe Messina Tabuso, Genova, on 26.6.1928 to the Regia Marina, 31.1.1929 renamed TRIPOLI, 1930s management by SA Coop. di Navigaz. Garibaldi (mercantile flag) , sunk by HMS SARACEN 6.7.1943. A sketch/picture of STURLA of Ignazio Messina is to be found on naviearmatori.net, but I'm not quite sure she's the same ship. BORZOLI, Odero Sestri Ponente, yard no. 314, 1119 tsl, 63.9 m, delivered 4.1923, in 1929 sold to A/S Det Nordenfjeldske D/S, Trondheim, as SVERRE SIGURDSSON, mined 10.6.1940 in Norway. MULTEDO, Odero Sestri yard no. 318, 1203 tsl, 64.0 m, delivered 19.12.1923, in 1929 to A/S Det Nordenfjeldske D/S as TRONDHEIM, mined 7.3.1947 in Norway. PRIARUGGIA, Odero Sestri yard no. 241 (?), 1196 tsl, 63.8 m, delivered 12.1925, 14.12.1933 grounded in heavy seas at San Pietro in Volta, later salved, 1938 to Tigullia SAN, 1939 to Ignazio Messina, Genova, sunk at Benghazi 28.11.1941. A sketch/picture can be found on naviearmatori.net Edited January 15, 2012 by de domenico Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinin Posted January 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2012 Dislocamento: 2.698 tonnellate is wrong? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corto Maltese Posted January 15, 2012 Report Share Posted January 15, 2012 Maybe Pinin. These are my data: Dislocamento: 2.460 tons (Jane's Fighting Ships 1938); 2.461 tons (Almanacco Navale 1937; confirmed on Almanacco Navale 1941 and Office of Naval Intelligence 202 - Italian Naval Vessel); 2.698 T (F. Bargoni "Tutte le navi militari d'Italia 1861 - 1986" and Giorgerini e Nani, "Almanacco Storico della Navi Militari Italiane 1861 - 1995") At this moment I don't have found any image but close to the Almanac's data, as you can see, there is this profile: Tratto dall'Almanacco Navale del 1937 pag. 378. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odisseo Posted January 15, 2012 Report Share Posted January 15, 2012 Il Jane's del 1937 riporta poche righe Uploaded with ImageShack.us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
de domenico Posted January 15, 2012 Report Share Posted January 15, 2012 (edited) Dislocamento: 2.698 tonnellate is wrong? No, Pinin, it's the usual spread (a familiar word nowadays, isn't it?) between displacement and gross register tonnage (tonn. stazza lorda): the former, used for naval units, is invariably larger than the latter, in use for merchant shipping (hopefully Alagi won't read this, or else I'll be sanctioned again... :s68: ..): Edited January 15, 2012 by de domenico Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinin Posted January 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2012 (edited) Thanks all. Corto Maltese that profile seems to be the Sturla 1884 with 2 big respirators behind the bridge. Unless it is a big coincidence. http://www.naviearmatori.net/gallery/viewimage.php?id=10864 dedomenico grazie for the explanation. Edited January 15, 2012 by Pinin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
de domenico Posted January 15, 2012 Report Share Posted January 15, 2012 (edited) Maybe Pinin. These are my data: Dislocamento: 2.460 tons (Jane's Fighting Ships 1938); 2.461 tons (Almanacco Navale 1937; confirmed on Almanacco Navale 1941 and Office of Naval Intelligence 202 - Italian Naval Vessel); 2.698 T (F. Bargoni "Tutte le navi militari d'Italia 1861 - 1986" and Giorgerini e Nani, "Almanacco Storico della Navi Militari Italiane 1861 - 1995") At this moment I don't have found any image but close to the Almanac's data, as you can see, there is this profile: Tratto dall'Almanacco Navale del 1937 pag. 378. Best compliments for the newly used Bargoni, a very good source.... :s20: Even if a friend recently sent me 10 pages of errata corrige (!) Edited January 15, 2012 by de domenico Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
de domenico Posted January 15, 2012 Report Share Posted January 15, 2012 Thanks all. Corto Maltese that profile seems to be the Sturla 1884 with 2 big respirators behind the bridge. Unless it is a big coincidence. http://www.naviearmatori.net/gallery/viewimage.php?id=10864 I see you looked her up on naviearmatori. Actually, I had the same doubt. Wait for the ORIONE: she is more or less a flush-decked ship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinin Posted January 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2012 (edited) Near sister Priaruggia. We can see the higher aft to distinguish and shorter respirators. http://www.naviearmatori.net/gallery/viewimage.php?id=10509 Edited January 15, 2012 by Pinin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corto Maltese Posted January 15, 2012 Report Share Posted January 15, 2012 (edited) Corto Maltese that profile seems to be the Sturla 1884 with 2 big respirators behind the bridge. Unless it is a big coincidence.http://www.naviearmatori.net/gallery/viewimage.php?id=10864 You are right Pinin: I don't believe in coincidences :s03: . Best compliments for the newly used Bargoni, a very good source.... :s20: Even if a friend recently sent me 10 pages of errata corrige (!) My old friend nearly the end of our work concerning the Almanacco Storico (revision of technical data) I think that there is only one truth: all the historical sources are full of errors :s03: :s02: Edited January 15, 2012 by Corto Maltese Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
de domenico Posted January 16, 2012 Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 (edited) Here she is. Source: Reinhart Schmelzkopf, "Fremde Schiffe in deutscher Hand", Strandgut, 2004. Edited January 16, 2012 by de domenico Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinin Posted January 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 Thanks. That sister seems almost like the first Sturla the 1884 one, but have a non-elevated bow. Strange no photos known being a RM ship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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