LT Melekhin * Posted June 6, 2011 Report Share Posted June 6, 2011 Attualmente in corso, nelle acque prospicenti Cartagena (Spagna), la consolidata esercitazione internazionale, a cadenza triennale, di soccorso sommergibili. Tra i partecipanti, oltre che Spagna (host nation) e Italia: USA, UK, Francia, Norvegia, Svezia, Portogallo, Russia e molti altri ancora. Seguiranno aggiornamenti (?). :s45: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazer_one* Posted June 6, 2011 Report Share Posted June 6, 2011 foto, foto foto delle Moships.... Lazer_ :s02: ne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totiano* Posted June 7, 2011 Report Share Posted June 7, 2011 avevo sottovalutato la partecipazione russa, che in genere è presente con poco piu di qualche spettatore! stavolta sembra che abbia inviato un battello intero! questo il link a defencetalk da cui ho attinto la notizia http://www.defencetalk.com/russian-submari...exercise-34581/ spero che chi di dovere ci dara qualche ragguaglio in piu.... Russian submarine to join NATO exercise for first time A Russian submarine will take part in the world's biggest submarine rescue exercise with its former Cold War foe NATO next week, the Western military alliance said Friday. The Russian submarine, the first to participate in any NATO exercise, will drop to the bottom of the Mediterranean along with Portuguese, Spanish and Turkish submarines and will await listless for a rescue mission off the coast of Cartagena, Spain. Around 2,000 military and non-military personnel as well as ships and aircraft from more than 20 nations will take part in the exercise, dubbed Bold Monarch 11, that will run from May 30 to June 10. Held every three years, it "is the world's largest submarine rescue exercise," said a statement from NATO's SHAPE allied military headquarters based in Mons, Belgium. "The exercise is designed to maximise international cooperation in submarine rescue operations -- something that has always been very important to NATO and all the submarine-operating nations," it said. The inclusion of a Russian submarine in the exercise comes amid a warming of ties between Moscow and the 28-nation alliance, nearly three years after Russia's war with Georgia had sparked tensions between the two sides. The United States, Russia, Italy, Sweden are contributing submarine rescue vehicles and sophisticated gear to clear debris. France, Norway and Britain will use a jointly owned rescue system. Aircraft will deploy from Italy, Britain and the United States to help locate the submarines and drop parachutists to provide emergency assistance. The vast exercise will culminate with a 48-hour coordinated rescue and evacuation of 150 survivors, including casualties, from a submarine acting in distress. Russia suffered a traumatic submarine accident more than 10 years ago, when the Kursk sank in the Barents sea, killing all 118 sailors inside. International search operations had taken a week to start after the August 12, 2000, incident. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totiano* Posted June 8, 2011 Report Share Posted June 8, 2011 mosso da curiosità sono tornato su siti che, in effetti, non visitavo da tempo e, in mezzo a un po di nostalgia per il vecchio incarico di capo ufficio sicurezza a scuolasom ho trovato le unità che partecipano alla bold monarch. ve le riporto da questo sito: http://www.manw.nato.int/boldmonarch2011/p...%20Monarch).pdf assieme ad alcune note sull'ISMERLO International Submarine Escape And Rescue Liaison Office (ISMERLO) ISMERLO is the only coordinating organization for submarine escape and rescue matters in the world. It was established almost 10 years ago in Norfolk, Virginia, USA. Their international staff currently consists of experts from the USA, France, Norway and Italy led by Commander Bill Orr USN (retd). It is the international co-ordinating authority for submarine rescue procedure, systems, equipment and support ships. ISMERLO ensures that at least one of the world’s rescue systems is available to be deployed at immediate notice in the event of an actual submarine casualty. ISMERLO’s expertise and web-based capabilities will be used extensively throughout BMH11 to coordinate exercise events as would be done in a real world event. During the 48 hours advanced coordinated rescue event on 4 – 5 June, ISMERLO’s capabilities will be critical to the realism of the command and control scenario. Participating Submarines Spain SSK Galerna Representing the Host Nation the spanish submarine Galerna will be central to the whole exercise interest. The Spanish navy have four locally built Agosta-class boats, namely the Galerna, Siroco, Mistral and Tramontana all based in Cartagena. Russia SSK Alrosa Alrosa is a submarine of the Black Sea fleet, Russian Federation. The submarine has been created on an experimental Project, 877V (a diesel-electric submarine with a pump jet propulsion). Today this submarine is a part of the 247th Division of submarines of the Black Sea Fleet. This is the first Russian Submarine to participate in a NATO exercise. Portugal SSK Tridente The Tridente class, also designated as U 209PN, is a new diesel-electric submarine class based on the Type 214 submarine developed by Howaldtswerke-Deutsche Werft GmbH (HDW) for the Portuguese Navy. Turkey SSK Anafartalar The Turkish Navy has 14 non-nuclear German-designed Type 209 submarines. At present the Turkish Navy operates the largest fleet of German-designed submarines in the world. Participating Ships Galicia L51 - Spain Galicia (L-51) is a Galicia class Landing Platform Dock (LPD) of the Spanish Navy, launched in 1998. She is the lead ship in her class. Galicia will be the Command Ship and nerve centre of the whole exercise. Displacement: 13,000 tonnes Neptuno A20 - Spain Neptuno A20 Spanish Submarine rescue ship. A former oilfield tug configured as a submarine rescue ship in 1988. Displacement 1,860 tonnes full load. Clara Campoamor - Spain Clara Campoamor is a Spanish search and rescue ship. Commissioned in 2007. Displacement: 3,050 tonnes. ITS Anteo (A 5309) - Italy Submarine Rescue and Salvage Ship. Anteo will operate her Submarine Rescue Vehicle SRV300, Submarine Rescue Chamber (SRC), Remotely Operated Vehicles (ROV’s) and Divers throughout the exercise. Displacement: 3,500 tonnes. TCG Inebolu (A-590) - Turkey Powhatan - class fleet ocean tug commissioned into the Turkish Navy in 2008 as a diving support ship. Displacement: 2,032 tonnes. KL Sandefjord - Norway Anchor Handling Tug Supply Vessel delivered in January 2011. Sandefjord will be taken from trade to support the NATO Submarine Rescue System (NSRS) Displacement 4,800 tonnes. HSwMS Belos A214 - Sweden Submarine rescue ship. Acquired in 1992. Although capable of independent SM rescue operations Belos will conduct coordinated operations with NSRS in BMH11. Displacement 6,150 tonnes. Porquoi Pas - France French research vessel. Launched in 2004 it was designed for hydrography, geoscience and physical, chemical and biological oceanography, as well as to launch small submarines such as the manned submersible Nautile and the ROV Victor 6000. Displacement 6,600 tonnes. EPRON Prut-Class - Russia EPRON will operate the Russian Black Sea Fleet submarine rescue facility. As a result of upgrades including sonar and underwater communications the ship was Renamed ‘EPRON’ in 1989. She is capable of decompression of up to 48 people in 4 interconnected chambers. In 2005, the vessel was installed with compact “Tiger” Remotely Operated Vehicles, ROVs. Displacement 3,090 tonnes KIL-158 - Russia Russian heavy lifting ship that has been in the Black Sea Fleet since 1989. KIL-158 is designed for lifting and placing roadstead equipment, attaching and detaching floating docks and also for transporting a wide range of cargoes. Will be used to assist Epron in BMH11. Displacement 5,250 tonnes Shakhter - Salvage Ship - Russia Commissioned 1985 and took part in the 2005 version of BMH11 exercise off Italy, with combat divers aboard. Displacement: 2,170 tonnes. HOS Shooting Star - USA Multipurpose Support Ship. Commissioned 2008. Taken up from trade to support the USA SRDRS system during BMH11. Displacement 2205 tonnes. mentre questi sono i sistemi di soccorso impiegati: Participating Rescue Systems NSRS - NATO Submarine Rescue System NSRS is a jointly owned French, Norwegian and British system which consists of; an intervention system provided by a Remotely Operated Vessel (ROV), a Rescue System provided by a free swimming Submarine Rescue Vehicle (SRV), a launch and recovery system and a Transfer Under Pressure system (TUP); capable of decompressing up to 70 rescuees simultaneously. The intervention system can arrive on the scene ahead of the rescue vehicle to conduct an initial survey and prepare the DISSUB for rescue by conducting debris clearance as required. The ROV can also provide additional stores (life support, medical etc…..) by POD posting. The rescue system is capable of operating to a depth of 610 m and can transfer up to 12 - 15 rescuees per cycle. Both the intervention and rescue systems are autonomous; they do not require any services from the mother ship. The complete system has been designed to be air transportable from its base at Faslane, Scotland. Russian Federation Navy (Black Sea Fleet) Rescue Chamber The RFN Black Sea Fleet Submarine Rescue Chamber is housed on the general purpose rescue ship ‘EPRON’. The EPRON is equipped with four ‘bells/chambers’: the Rescue Bell (CK-64) capable of rescue to 500m, a Diving Bell (BK) capable of operating to 200m, a working chamber (PK-680) capable of 450m depths and an observer chamber with camera (HK-680) operable to 300m. The original Russian Navy diving and salvage bells were only designed for operations to depths of just 200m. With the increased diving depths of submarines developed in recent decades there was a need to create a modified rescue ship, project 527M ‘EPRON’, capable of working with rescue chambers to 500m that became serviceable in 1989. BOLD MONARCH 2011 is the first time this system has worked with non-Russian submarines. US SRDRS - The Submarine Rescue Diving and Recompression System The US Navy’s SRDRS is operated out of San Diego, California. It conducted its first operational matings during BOLD MONARCH 2008, and has since also exercised with several submarines of South American navies. It consists of four distinct elements, which include the Assessment/Underwater Work System (AUWS); Submarine Decompression System (SDS); the Pressurized Rescue Module System (PRMS); and PRMS Mission Support Equipment, including the Launch and Recovery System (LARS), a deck mounted A-frame crane used to launch and recover the PRM. The SDS, PRM, LARS, and associated generators and auxiliaries all compose the Submarine Rescue System (SRS). The Submarine Rescue Diving and Recompression System (SRDRS) consists of the Submarine Rescue System (SRS) in conjunction with the Assessment/Underwater Work System (AUWS). These systems are designed to rapidly deploy to any location in the world via air and ground transportation and will be installed on a military or commercial Vessel Of Opportunity (VOO). The SRS, approximately 183 tons, is installed aboard the VOO. Italian Submarine Rescue Vehicle - SRV300 Based in Taranto, Italy the SRV300 is housed onboard ITS ANTEO, a purpose built rescue support ship, that is rescue ready and is proven reliable after multiple exercises. It can rescue crew members from a pressurised DISSUB; operate in sea states up to SS3 and can rescue up to 12 personnel at a time. It can mate down to a depth of 300m at a maximum seat angle of 45 degrees. It is a free swimming, piloted rescue vehicle that is supported by the rest of the integrated system onboard ITS ANTEO. The full system includes a Submarine Rescue Chamber (SRC) capable of rescuing up to 6 people at a time and ADS divers that can operate down to depths of 300m to support the submarine before a rescue is attempted. The whole system is then augmented by an embarked Transfer Under Pressure capability that will be able to decompress a whole Italian submarine crew. senza dimenticare i fondamentali supporti medici, SPAG e subacquei Medical Support The medical problems associated with rescuing the crew of a distressed submarine are critical and complex. People may be injured by physical impact, by fire or by breathing toxic gases. Cold water may also cause hypothermia and rapid changes in pressure could cause decompression illness (DCI). If the submarine’s atmosphere support systems are out of service the build up of carbon dioxide will cause a toxic atmosphere and impaired hygiene may cause gastroenteritis. In a deteriorating situation people could very quickly become severely incapacitated. The most challenging scenario in a submarine accident is when submariners are trapped in a submarine unable to surface with a toxic atmosphere and rising pressures. This is a crisis situation that calls for a high degree of professional expertise and close co-operation between operators and specialist medical personnel. There are two ways of exiting a bottomed distressed submarine. If the situation is dangerous or uncontrollable, the first option for the crew is escape. If the submarine is not too deep, escapees will evacuate the submarine via the escape locks and be recovered to safety on the surface. The second is by means of rescue. If the crew can wait for a submarine rescue vehicle or submarine rescue chamber to come to their aid this is usually the safer and preferred option. Reaching a distressed submarine and transferring injured personnel, possibly under pressure, into a rescue vehicle, then bringing them to the surface is a most complex procedure with many specific medical challenges. These challenges include the risk of DCI. Most nations operating submarines have highly trained medical teams to deal with these specialist challenges. SPAG A typical Submarine Parachute Assistance Group (SPAG) is available at six hours notice to take off. They are highly trained in water descent parachuting. Once in the sea, their primary role is to establish communications with the Distressed Submarine (DISSUB) and relay information back to headquarters for rescue planning. If an escape is planned due to conditions inside the DISSUB or an escape is already in progress they are trained to provide First Aid and other assistance to survivors and place them in life rafts to extend their survival time until a recovery asset arrives on scene. DIVERS Divers also play a vital role in submarine escape and rescue and representatives from many nations have come to BOLD MONARCH to practice their skills in an integrated rescue operation. Free swimming divers can descend to a shallow submarine and inspect the hull, clear access to the escape hatch and attach supply lines to deliver fresh air to the crew or high pressure air to attempt to bring the submarine to the surface. In addition they can deliver water-tight pods containing food, medical supplies or atmosphere control chemicals to keep the crew alive until they are rescued. For a disabled submarine below the depths at which divers can work, an Atmosphere Diving Suit (ADS) will safely allow the same tasks to be carried out. As the illustration shows, ADS is a self contained one man submersible suit and is capable of long endurance dives down to the maximum depths at which rescue can be performed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totiano* Posted June 8, 2011 Report Share Posted June 8, 2011 (edited) mentre quella di ieri si puo senza dubbio definire una data storica! dal sito ufficiale della nato al link http://www.manw.nato.int/boldmonarch2011/default.aspx 07 June 11 Russian Federation Navy Fully Integrated in NATO Submarine Rescue Exercise Bold Monarch Russian Federation Navy Submarine ALROSA from the Black Sea Fleet based in Sevastapol is pictured on the surface during Exercise Bold Monarch 2011 in waters off the coast of Murcia, Southern Spain. This remarkable sight marks the groundbreaking progress being made in international cooperation and coordination between submarine operating Navies worldwide. The rescue exercise marks the first time a Russian submarine has ever performed a fully integrated role in a NATO led exercise. Surfacing amidst a fleet of NATO and non-NATO warships, salvage and diving support vessels, she is a daunting sight to any surface fleet officer regardless of their nation. At Bold Monarch she is a most welcome participant and key player in the numerous rescue scenarios and serials planned Edited June 8, 2011 by Totiano Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LT Melekhin * Posted June 8, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 8, 2011 foto, foto foto delle Moships.... Lazer_ :s02: ne Questa vale per due... o per tre? :s03: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazer_one* Posted June 9, 2011 Report Share Posted June 9, 2011 ... Non vedo la terza ma e' bellissimo vedere la "rossa" che cerca di appontare sulla Belos... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lefa Posted June 9, 2011 Report Share Posted June 9, 2011 (edited) Non è strano che la Russia abbia inviato proprio l'Alrosa? sembra che su quell'unità abbiamo appontato noi con la nostra campana, niente SRV? http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.1...133372500071195 Tante foto dalla pagina di FB: http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.1...133372500071195 http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.1...133372500071195 http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.1...133372500071195 Brochure dell'evento, con immagini associate a nomi: http://www.manw.nato.int/boldmonarch2011/p...%20Monarch).pdf In fine diario di immagini dal sito ufficiale: http://www.manw.nato.int/boldmonarch2011/P...to_gallery.aspx Guardate questo video della BBC, mostra il SRDRS che apponta sull'Alrosa, si vede l'interno del modulo di soccorso e permettono alla giornalista (e alle telecamere) di entrare nel SMG russo! :s07: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-13692299 Altri video: Edited June 9, 2011 by Lefa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Febea Posted June 9, 2011 Report Share Posted June 9, 2011 ... Non vedo la terza ma e' bellissimo vedere la "rossa" che cerca di appontare sulla Belos... La terza nave, dopo aver analizzato la foto al microscopio :s41: , è l'americana SHOOTING STAR, con a bordo il sistema di soccorso sommergibili SRDRS: la si intravede, piccolissima, tra i due fumaioli del BELOS, subito a poppa della sovrastruttura di plancia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LT Melekhin * Posted June 10, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 10, 2011 A proposito del SHOOTING STAR, a bordo era imbarcato questo robo: :s12: Dedicata al Com.te LAZER :s03: ONE: Anche se, tra le mie preferite, segnalerei il nuovissimo (Gen-2011) SANDEFJORD con a bordo, tra l'altro, l'assetto NSRS: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazer_one* Posted June 10, 2011 Report Share Posted June 10, 2011 ... Invidia ... Sento il profumo del mare e dell'olio... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZULU Posted June 10, 2011 Report Share Posted June 10, 2011 Premesso che c'è anche................l'innominabile.............cercate su internet e trovate un mare di notizie e foto su questo avvenimento attualissimo. è di oggi un "docking" tra battello USA e URSS scopo salvataggio.............. Zulu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazer_one* Posted June 10, 2011 Report Share Posted June 10, 2011 ... infatti c'e' un'altra discussione aperta con foto fresche... Appena pescate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totiano* Posted June 11, 2011 Report Share Posted June 11, 2011 riunite le discussioni. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LT Melekhin * Posted June 11, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 11, 2011 Premesso che c'è anche................l'innominabile.............cercate su internet e trovate un mare di notizie e foto su questo avvenimento attualissimo.è di oggi un "docking" tra battello USA e URSS scopo salvataggio.............. Zulu ????? :s12: :s12: :s12: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totiano* Posted June 11, 2011 Report Share Posted June 11, 2011 penso che Zulu abbia fatto confusione tra Anteo e Proteo, Giacomo, non preoccuparti. salutami Pistoia e Alfarano :s02: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LT Melekhin * Posted June 12, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 12, 2011 ...penso che Zulu abbia fatto confusione tra Anteo e Pr___o... :s02: AARRGGHH!! Un esorcista, presto!!! :s03: :s03: :s03: Anche se, devo dire, qualcosa di affine -e, forse, altrettanto inquietante- all'innominabile c'era... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alagi Posted June 12, 2011 Report Share Posted June 12, 2011 (edited) penso che Zulu abbia fatto confusione tra Anteo e Proteo, Giacomo, non preoccuparti.salutami Pistoia e Alfarano :s02: Anche se, devo dire, qualcosa di affine -e, forse, altrettanto inquietante- all'innominabile c'era... Tra l'altro, sul mascone di dritta si legge "3 PRON", che è abbastanza simile al nome del noto Innominabile. :s03: AARRGGHH!! Un esorcista, presto!!! :s03: :s03: :s03: Concordo: ho qualche aggancio in curia, nel caso lo rendo operativo. :s42: :s03: Edited June 12, 2011 by Alagi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Bravo Posted June 12, 2011 Report Share Posted June 12, 2011 (edited) L'Alrosa è l'unico battello rimasto alla fu Flotta del Mar Nero nonche l'unico classe Kilo con propulsione pump-jet. Un mesetto fa s'era vista una foto mentre provava una campana in porto. http://www.betasom.it/forum/index.php?showtopic=36306 Edited June 12, 2011 by Charlie Bravo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Bravo Posted June 13, 2011 Report Share Posted June 13, 2011 Guardate questo video della BBC, mostra il SRDRS che apponta sull'Alrosa, si vede l'interno del modulo di soccorso e permettono alla giornalista (e alle telecamere) di entrare nel SMG russo! :s07: Durante il governo Eltsin, primi anni '90, ci fu uno scambio di visite tra RN Navy e VMF su un Kilo e un Upholder. KIL-158 : Uploaded with ImageShack.us Questa nave appartenente alla classe Kashtan è classificata come KIL (Kilektor), nave appoggio boe ormeggio invece che che SS (Spasitelnoye Sudno) cioè nave soccorso come era d'uso nella VMF. L'altra unità è la EPRON classe Prut (SS - Spasitelnoye Sudno). EPRON sta per Ekspeditskaya Podvodnik Rabot Ososbogo Nazhnacheniya che è il Servizio Soccorso Sottomarini della VMF. Qui l'Alrosa (B-871) con bandiera spagnola : Uploaded with ImageShack.us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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